Take two smart and talented guys who are currently at the top of their respective fields and put them on the phone together and you're bound to get something good out of it.
That's exactly what Teen Vogue did with Chance The Rapper and "Get Out" director Jordan Peele for their new Volume II: Music Issue. Peele and Chance talked working with Kanye, their shared love for Dave Chappelle, how the public reacted to their recent projects, and what it means to be Black in America today.
When asked about working with his Chicago brother Kanye West on The Life of Pablo, Chance described the process as "insanity," adding that Ye is big on multitasking in the studio. "We’ll have a studio rented out, and he’ll bounce between rooms working on different songs, writing for a second or adding or subtracting productions. He’ll also put a bunch of people in a room that he thinks might have good ideas and try to see what they come up with."
He added that 25 percent of the time is for idea sharing and work and the other 75 is filled with lectures from Kanye about his world view. "I think it helped me find myself. I’m a young dude from Chicago who grew up with Kanye as my image of hip-hop. Finding your voice in a room where you have to challenge Kanye is scary — but it’s also life-affirming."
The best Kanye experience that Chance has had so far didn't even involve working with him directly, but observing his studio habits. "I remember one night we had a lady who produced the Lego film, a bunch of coding people, and a magician all in a room together trying to figure out how they could make him disappear onstage. I don’t know if he ever figured that sh*t out!"
During their discussion of "Get Out," Chance praised Peele's film as "revolutionary." "It uses this discomfort and awkwardness to describe blackness in America and being black in these white spaces," he said. "This movie puts it on everyone’s plate and makes everybody deal with it — and, at the same time, find themselves in it." Chance revealed that he has a horror comedy coming soon, and listed Dave Chappelle as one of his top three role models growing up. The other two were Barack Obama (who 8-year-old Chance met when he was a Senator), and Kanye West.
As for the present and the future, Peele and Chance discussed the need to break "systematic conventions" in their respective fields as Black men. Chance broke down what he thinks is the problem for people his age: "The problem is that my generation was pacified into believing that racism existed only in our history books. Now we’re in the age of instant information, where just looking at Twitter we can find out that unarmed people of color are being murdered by the police at an alarming rate."
Chance compared it to the reaction that Peele's generation had to the Rodney King beating and added that throughout history it's the "young folks, the twentysomethings" who take action to bring about change.
Head over to Teen Vogue to read the full interview.